tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post1371625094032790773..comments2024-03-22T01:17:01.667-05:00Comments on Georgette's Jiu Jitsu World: What are rape apologetics? [EDITED]Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-22393930924121715162013-11-07T13:06:43.198-06:002013-11-07T13:06:43.198-06:00I'm not even going to bother to engage in deba...I'm not even going to bother to engage in debate with people who hide behind anonymous temp accounts. On some level, they KNOW they're wrong- that's why they're ashamed to stand up and be seen. They're just trolling.<br /><br /><br />Hey, I want a "Georgette's Merry Band of HaterZ" patch.SavageKitsunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02316123482167861940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-28592520713516848672013-11-07T10:32:24.824-06:002013-11-07T10:32:24.824-06:00Maldonado’s father and brother, aka ‘the truth be ...Maldonado’s father and brother, aka ‘the truth be told’, aka ‘dardar23’...<br /><br />What a class act you are… it's amazing how you both never fail to show your true colors.<br /><br />Prolific and avid writers, humble and wise men of integrity. Truly remarkable!<br />RGSmithKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141157992446957336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-88291270729355345002013-11-07T07:33:36.042-06:002013-11-07T07:33:36.042-06:00Truth be told, you should read your own posts to s...Truth be told, you should read your own posts to see how ignorant and uneducated you seem. First you say the jury couldn't tell if consent had been withdrawn. What does that mean? It means that in their opinion it could have been but they were unable to judge clearly about it. They didn't say that consent was definitely withdrawn. This brings us to your final comment about her being sent to jail for lying: if the jury was unclear about consent it does not follow that they believe she was lying.<br /><br />Also, if consent was withdrawn then it was not consensual. When you say the sex was consensual because the jury couldn't tell if consent was withdrawn you are making more errors in logic and the law. The jury couldn't tell if consent was withdrawn so therefore it couldn't tell if the sex was consensual. When you say the sex was consensual you are lying. The jury doesn't know so how do you know? This is clearly a case when a not guilty verdict does not equal a verdict of innocent. This is based on your assessment of the jury. <br /><br />One more time: you are obviously ignorant, uneducated and a liar. And anyone who qualifies rape with brutal is a misogynist who engages in rape apologetics. I mean, are you implying that there is something we could call a gentle rape? I should also point out that when you say she was not brutally raped you don't leave out the possibility that she was raped. You are only saying it was not brutal. <br /><br />But hey, I'm sure these two fellows are actually good people. You would let any one of them date your sister or daughter. You would even let them both take her out at the same time. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06663698678797979546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-28551463848901178792013-11-07T05:47:51.750-06:002013-11-07T05:47:51.750-06:00I'm not feeding you any personal information a...I'm not feeding you any personal information about me. Nor do I care about your Identity. The facts are the facts and now both men have been released and acquitted. Even the juror commented on why they couldn't convict either of them on even the lesser added misdemeanor abuse. They couldn't tell if consent was withdrawn. So the sex was consensual but the jury couldn't agree if it was withdrawn and if it was, when? no body beat her, robbed her, kidnapped her, or brutally raped her. But here we all are condemning them when consent was given. Yes they were bad decision by "ALL". Poor Judgement by "ALL". She is just as responsible as everyone else. So the gist is.... that two men spent 10 months in jail because she didn't want to be shamed all embarrassed. Maybe she should be sent to jail for falsely accusing people of something that really didn't happened.The truth be toldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07432932266348485950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-21010332720597677372013-11-07T00:49:58.003-06:002013-11-07T00:49:58.003-06:00let me share quote-- the person is speaking about ...let me share quote-- the person is speaking about the girl who was left unconscious on a parking lot concrete floor by the accused after they had sex with her:<br /><br />"Her strength and resolve in the face of what has happened is truly one of the most humbling and inspiring experiences of my life.<br /><br />I have shared with her my feelings on the matter and both of us are focused and committed to supporting her full recovery and violence prevention for ALL women going forward … I’ll speak to you more about that later in this letter.<br /><br />One of my biggest priorities in these past couple of weeks has been to express to her my sincere and deepest apology. And that too is what this letter is about.<br /><br />I want to publicly apologize to her for me not knowing, not sensing, and not having the awareness to know that this was even possible.<br /><br />My wife keeps saying I couldn’t have known,<br />my mom says I couldn’t have known.<br /><br />Everyone I’ve confided in said I couldn’t have known,<br />but that doesn’t change my wishing I could have.<br /><br />They keep saying the same thing over and over…<br /><br />any reasonable person would understand that you couldn’t have known.<br /><br />And that may be true but while that’s a convenient position to take,<br /><br />the truth is I didn’t know and I wish I had.<br />I will go to my grave wishing someone ELSE from my team<br />would have been there for her that night."<br /><br />Guess who wrote these tender words? THE GUY WHO PAID FOR THE DEFENDANTS' LAWYERS. <br /><br />Can someone who on the side of TLI and the defendants please provide a cogent argument as to why we should believe that the defendants and LI aren't complete scumbags, regardless of whether or not they are guilty of rape? And, if they do not qualify as scumbags, then who does?Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11424696893999907489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-74903007474625602932013-11-06T13:12:06.355-06:002013-11-06T13:12:06.355-06:00I'm not sure what makes me more physically ill...I'm not sure what makes me more physically ill, the fact that those two monsters got off or how many people in the BJJ community are showing their rape apologist colors... Great post though and sums up pretty much everything I would want to say.<br /><br />Also, truth be told, even if she did punch her boyfriend, that makes it ok for him and someone else to brutally rape her? I don't understand what your point is.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05593306631482930065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-61796328553599639632013-11-06T11:38:00.390-06:002013-11-06T11:38:00.390-06:00Hey, "Truth Be Told"- if you have the st...Hey, "Truth Be Told"- if you have the straight scoop, and you stand behind your opinions, why are you still hiding behind an anonymous temp account? If these are the facts, you shouldn't have any problem with us knowing who you are. You shouldn't have any problem with your teachers and teammates seeing your commentary.SavageKitsunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02316123482167861940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-10196615731808782322013-11-06T10:32:15.444-06:002013-11-06T10:32:15.444-06:00The thing with these "men" who have been...The thing with these "men" who have been accused of rape, such as these two and Irvin, is that their excuses and reasoning don't portray them as good people regardless if it were not rape. Irvin admits he was present and tried to participate in "running a train." The young woman was a slut who wanted it. OK, so we have a man who thinks engaging in an act that most would consider immoral and even revolting, with a woman who is depraved and nasty, is acceptable. These latest two engaged in a morally questionable act that speaks to their character and upbringing in a negative way. This is what Irvin, the "master," produces from his academy? I get it, their supporters are happy for them however they should probably tone down their celebrating and not engage in social media retaliation since it only reminds everyone of the fact we are dealing with two morally depraved persons who behaved like pigs. If the victim really is a whore what does it say about them and their characters? What does it say about them when they record it? What does it say about people when they stand up for these two as though nothing they did was wrong? At the very least you would think they would find the situation shameful and a source of embarrassment. Or is the whole "boys will be boys" excuse rearing its ugly head again? <br /><br />And she would be welcome to train where I train. The same cannot be said of those two disgraces to BJJ.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06663698678797979546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-68173504332780704182013-11-06T06:20:00.003-06:002013-11-06T06:20:00.003-06:00Get your hands on the video and you will recant ev...Get your hands on the video and you will recant everything you wrote about her being left there. She didn't want to leave. she was upset about what happened with her "So called" boyfriend, who under testimony called her a booty call, snubbing her at the club and not paying any attention to her. So, what does she do? she goes around the club showing off her assets and then approaches him later on and punches him in the face. This is her testimony. If you are going to report get it right. The truth be toldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07432932266348485950noreply@blogger.com