tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post7072104779661617308..comments2024-03-22T01:17:01.667-05:00Comments on Georgette's Jiu Jitsu World: The Brazilian Legs DrillUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-27974910618020214972012-04-02T10:59:48.888-05:002012-04-02T10:59:48.888-05:00Interesting responses here:
http://www.reddit.com...Interesting responses here:<br /><br />http://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/r4van/can_anyone_give_me_a_reason_not_to_cross_my/JayBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-46329058383530510382012-04-01T12:53:56.837-05:002012-04-01T12:53:56.837-05:00An extremely unusual armbar set up from the 50/50 ...An extremely unusual armbar set up from the 50/50 guard at this year's Pan Ams.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JNN_rnCaRITree Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332609654612510967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-12766852089342377442012-03-30T16:35:27.461-05:002012-03-30T16:35:27.461-05:00I'm all for using "humerus" Georgett...I'm all for using "humerus" Georgette...make 'em learn!Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11994251712573351873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-76431909212620527662012-03-30T14:04:32.349-05:002012-03-30T14:04:32.349-05:00thanks for the shout out to Travis, i was going to...thanks for the shout out to Travis, i was going to go spectate on Saturday but now I'll try and watch his match Sunday morning.(hopefully i read the website right)<br /><br /><br />Funny we trained open guard grip breaks with legs only last night. Keeping people that grab your pants from passing your guard. My finger tips are trashed.Nick Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10356013492418110359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-66769067340638290102012-03-30T14:03:28.328-05:002012-03-30T14:03:28.328-05:00You're right, mea culpa, there's many righ...You're right, mea culpa, there's many right ways to do things (I think I may have already said this at least twice?)<br /><br />I used the word humerus because it's shorter and more precise and more efficient than saying "The shoulder to elbow bone." If it means someone has to google it, eh, oh well- they learned something today. <br /><br />You'll notice Ronda's mom's knees are not widely splayed apart. And while I can't see twitter from inside this firewall, I am pretty durn sure that Rener and Ryron don't teach knees-open-ankles-crossed as the ideal armbar. <br /><br />I know that in the moment, what matters is what works in the moment. If you can make it work in the moment, it was right *at that time.* Hooray. But what about when you're drilling? Isn't drilling the time to strive for perfection-- to strive to instill muscle memory of the most efficient, tightest, closest-to-foolproof technique possible? And that way, what you instinctively reach for when you're live sparring will be the best technique, generally speaking, until you have to adjust for the context and the goal?<br /><br />I can't believe you're arguing about this :)Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-73471001021940011002012-03-30T13:33:48.061-05:002012-03-30T13:33:48.061-05:00What if you don't need to isolate the arm (why...What if you don't need to isolate the arm (why use humerus - the shoulder to elbow bone here?) or prevent the hamstring from being passed over the head?<br /><br />I point to Ronda's mother -<br /><br />http://drannmaria.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-to-do-arm-bar-right-rant.html<br /><br />and to the Gracie Brothers -<br /><br />https://twitter.com/#!/GracieBrothers/status/177284370707656704<br /><br />regarding the open knees/crossed ankles armbar. <br /><br />There's usually more than one way to slay that dragon and what we grapplers have to do is find the ones that really work for us as individuals. <br /><br />That's all I'm saying and I certainly am not trying to prove a giant, earth-shatteringly important point. Just saying that what we do in matches often looks a bit different from the pristine techniques we drill and after development of true expertise, we can make some decidedly unorthodox things work for ourselves.Tree Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332609654612510967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-47897045664129101682012-03-30T11:36:35.202-05:002012-03-30T11:36:35.202-05:00Oh jeez. Do we really need to have this argument?...Oh jeez. Do we really need to have this argument?<br /><br />OK, I'll bite. It isolates the humerus and makes it more difficult to pass the hamstring over the head.Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-39855007434077932582012-03-30T10:53:31.286-05:002012-03-30T10:53:31.286-05:00Let me ask you this: what does keeping your knees ...Let me ask you this: what does keeping your knees tight and your ankles unlocked during an armbar accomplish?Tree Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332609654612510967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-75413160311794149822012-03-29T22:26:45.447-05:002012-03-29T22:26:45.447-05:00Well, you make a good point. However, I think ter...Well, you make a good point. However, I think tere would be right ways to do ll those variations, depending on the context & desired goal. And, given what my instructor said about the context & desired goal, I'm tempted (by my respect for his knowledge) to defer to his judgment about doing the BLD a certain way... but it is possible there are other right ways perhaps in other situations for other goals.<br /><br />However, just because Miesha didn't get out of that armbar doesn't meant it's right (or "the best practice") to splay your knees apart and lock your ankles.Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-43988825509294491592012-03-29T21:39:47.446-05:002012-03-29T21:39:47.446-05:00Declaring something "the right way" can ...Declaring something "the right way" can be a fool's errand.<br /><br />Look at how many guillotine or armbar variations there are. I can name five guillotines right off the top of my head now and at least four or five armbars too. <br /><br />This gets even trickier when talking about armbars - knees open Ronda Rousey-style or knees tight, as per usual BJJ technique?Tree Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332609654612510967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-83436089713689551452012-03-29T14:10:08.529-05:002012-03-29T14:10:08.529-05:00Hey Georgette,
Thanks for the shout-out. Sorry y...Hey Georgette,<br /><br />Thanks for the shout-out. Sorry you won't be at the Pans this year but maybe next year!<br /><br />BTW - While living in Philly, I trained with Zak at Maxercise, and he's a monster on the mat. Both his parents are black belts, and he definitely grew up in the sport.<br /><br />DolphDolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15204258107527184901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-43657904449461099232012-03-29T13:31:53.459-05:002012-03-29T13:31:53.459-05:00There's also a triangle you can hit but I'...There's also a triangle you can hit but I'm not up to describing that at the moment!<br /><br />I did go back and watch the video so I could post "watch at time such-and-such" but I must be retarded, or distracted by work, or it must be the wrong Kron v. Zak match, because I'm not seeing the Brazilian Legs happening!Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-69093482560298525582012-03-29T13:24:48.364-05:002012-03-29T13:24:48.364-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-91904258439570479872012-03-29T13:23:42.801-05:002012-03-29T13:23:42.801-05:00Sorry, I assumed it was a common term. It's t...Sorry, I assumed it was a common term. It's tough to describe. Sadly, a youtube search turned up just one video, and I would NOT encourage you to do it Pendergrass's way, at least it wasn't the way my instructor teaches it (and since Kron, Rickson's son, does it "our" way-- Imma say that's the right way.)<br /><br />Maybe I can make a video for you.<br /><br />In short it's a drill for open guard retention and replacement against passes from the knees that seek to go around your legs, to the front or to the back. <br /><br />My best attempt at description:<br />1. Opponent ducks one arm under your leg, putting your hamstring on his shoulder, to start a stack pass.<br />2. With your arm that's opposite the leg he's ducked under (i.e. if he's under your left leg, use your right hand) you'll block him by connecting with his shoulder or armpit. You are blocking the side of his body that's coming underneath your leg.<br />3. Your free leg bases out on the mat, and you want to hip out away from him, then tuck your bottom shoulder under your body. You're using your top arm to maintain distance away from him, while your bottom arm/shoulder tucks under. As a result, you are on your side, giving greater mobility. <br />4. Also as a result, your bottom hip (connected to the leg on his shoulder) tucks under and moves farther from him, so that leg turns, the knee drops towards the mat, your shin slides down his collarbone, and your instep is curled over his trap.<br />5. While your bottom shin and top arm are still framing on him and blocking his motion towards you, move your free leg so that the hamstring connects with his trap (where your instep is) and curl your calf over the back of his neck- let him carry your weight by activating that hamstring and your hip flexors. <br />6. Slide the bottom leg (the one that was on his shoulder) down his chest so you have shin across his waist, instep curled around his far hip bone. In this position, you can bear a great deal of his weight, and since you're still on your side, you can use your legs and foot around his hip to follow his motion around in either direction.<br />7. To reinitiate the drill on the other side, opponent pushes your foot (around his hip) down to the mat and kneewalks over it-- so it's basically the same position as # 1. Now you repeat, all to the opposite side.Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30740798.post-64276818699867878142012-03-29T13:03:01.955-05:002012-03-29T13:03:01.955-05:00What specifically is the "Brazilian legs"...What specifically is the "Brazilian legs" you talk about? Seems like there's a bit missing in between the mention of it and then the Kron/Zak match.Tree Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332609654612510967noreply@blogger.com